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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2009.07.16 16:25:00 -
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That was an accurate history, so I don't get your comment?
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2009.07.16 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 16/07/2009 16:49:25
 Originally by: Invelious
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
That was an accurate history, so I don't get your comment?
You used big lego blocks when you were kid right? I didnt say it was inaccurate, I simply asked if in the future when she provides a history lesson if she will include the failure of stoping the 24th Imperial crusade.
lego blocks? some Amarrian game perhaps? I had nothing so fancy.
May I ask what failure in stopping the 24th Imperial Crusade you refer to and how it pertains to RKK's ominous joining of the Tribal Militia?
Was Jade suppose to stop the 24th Crusade from doing something in particular or just required to cause the complete collapse of the Amarrian government (not possible)?
àMaking note of course that the Amarrian empire is the most power and dangerous Empire in the cluster (yeah thats right, I put my money on Amarr over the Jovians!).
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2009.07.16 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 16/07/2009 20:49:09
Originally by: Invelious
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Invelious
Jadder, thats some history there. In the future. Will you preach of your failures agaisnt the 24IC?
From where I sit we're doing pretty well at the moment. We've purged Kamela of the 24th Crusade - driven you like whipped dogs to stage in hisec. We've rained death and destruction on your command and control corps, we've forced your capitals off the field and generally played havoc with your planning and deployment. Wardecced your best and brightest and made them flee and six months into the campaign we're still growing in confidence and capability.
You can't talk your way out of this reality Invelious. At some point you will need to fight.
The reality is your still sleeping and need to wake up. We still base out of Kamela, our best corps are still in our militia and if you think sitting your butts in the 24IC station in Kamela is achieving anything then you really need to learn how to wage war because your terrible at it.
I respect your strong opinion Invelious but the above quoted contention is absolutely untenable. I get that it was a smack-strike with the intention to present a negative opinion of the enemy, but it turned me off from listening with so much hyperbole.
Specific instances of being camped in Kamela as well what which corps are still based there should be supplied, then a rebuttal could be formulated (as at this point JF are not being station camped in Kamela). Though arguments about who is dominate in Kamela should be made with the caveat that RKKÆs reputation and the presence of the Tribal Liberation fleets may be a large part of the cause.
In my personal experience the 24th does not hold any sway on either the locals of 24th or can exert effective force against its enemies there. Do you contest that this is true? Could I be wrong? Supply some thing coherent to the dialogue. I know I am willing to listen.
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2009.07.16 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 16/07/2009 22:21:22
well stated.
I would counter that over all the conflict has been going towards Star Fraction success when measured against the standard metrics (not systems held but success in battle). But as you said so eloquently, this is a fight of perpetual motion. Of course if one thing can be said for the Star Fraction it is that they are masters of guerilla war. 
Also IÆd like to add a point of caution about using what ever metrics you do use to conclude success or failure. Star FractionÆs goals are not even in the same category as traditional forces. It is apples and archo-capital oranges. Apply your own ideas of success and failure at your own risk.
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.17 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Secretary Phase
Honour to whom honour is due.
words to live by
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.17 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Secretary Phase
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Secretary Phase
Honour to whom honour is due.
words to live by
Coming from someone who has obviosuly taken sarcasm invulnerabilty courses to the fifth grade, that's a real compliment.
Best regards
Secretary phase
"Honour to whom honour is due."
that is the key to being honorable; to being of moral caliber; to being professional in the way one comports oneself.
they are words to live by.
you'll note the difference between pilots who understand this and those who are too immature to comprehend respect for a valiant enemy by those who say "gf" after blood and pod juice has been blasted across the system.
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.20 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: lucifers widow
So come on out on the side of the Min militia instead of turning every thread into an attention seeking exercise in self promotion and ego boosting and actually effect the war instead of picking out the odd target here and there, cause atm you sure as hell are not helping the ones you claim, you are busy hiding under kam station and spewing a load of crap on the forums.
Be silent you cowardly dog. Nobody is interested in ranting from a person too cowardly to post on IGS with their combat pilot.
Jadder that seems to be your response every time someone calls you out on not doing squat all for your allies
"Be silent you cowardly dog" followed by how weak they are or because they are speaking without displaying the corp they belong too. Does it hurt you when your wrong and you dont have a valid response?
I think the point though is that often one pilot will pretend to be a different pilot to preach the same response under the supposition that somehow it makes their view more legitimate if random unidentified and unknown personas parrot back the same rejoinder.
Jade merely gives an appropriate response in these instances. Why waste time counting claims made with no effort at proof nor done in good faith by a persona that can be made to answer for their actions?
Besides I know I havenÆt been ôbusy hiding under kam station and spewing a loadö. Indeed the only action IÆve seen on the Kamela station was an RKK jag chewing up a solo enemy. Most of the fighting isnÆt actually in Kamela, at least in my time zone. I canÆt speak for when I am disconnected from my pod.
Which honestly would be actually when my ôspewing a loadö would be most likely to occurànot while ôbusy hiding under kam stationö
as to the comment: "cause atm you sure as hell are not helping the ones you claim"
I would like to hear some viable reasoning behind that. Also views on RKK and their help ôon the side of the Min militiaö
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.20 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 20/07/2009 21:32:50
Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 20/07/2009 21:31:45
@Invelious
The only way to show conviction is to join the militias?
CVA hasnÆt broken their alliance up and join the 24th yet who among us can doubt their stalwart conviction to the Empire?
By your logic though CVA would be the same as Star Fraction, they wouldnÆt have ônutsö and you and I both know that is complete poppy****.
I have a question for you.
Do you think that if RKK had not joined the Tribals they could have still had an impact on the war?
I seem to recall they were actually fighting with the Tribals before joining officially.
My suspicion (and feel free to prove me wrong) is that you donÆt actually mean that a group canÆt be effective against a militia unless they join, but that you are just striking out with every possible insult rather than biting into the meat of the issue.
Besides a Militia pilot canÆt go through Amarr very effectively, or Youl or Mista or any of the Amarr systems. A pilot at war with groups like Absinthe or PIE yet not in the militia can. Maybe one could argue which tactic has the ômostö effect but I donÆt see how that has no effect.
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.20 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious
CVA as a whole has an entire region to govern and deal with multiple threats everyday in providence in the name of the Empire, their conviction is there but cannot pour all of their resources into this war, otherwise if they did all of minnie space would be in the hands of the 24thIC.
Maybe yes, maybe no. We can agree the combined CVA focus could certainly have supreme effect, though at the cost of Providence the gain probably isnÆt worth it.
Originally by: Invelious
And you are right, one does not need to be the militia in order to show a difference and to support it, so I stand corrected, but let me state, that SF's actions have done little to deter us, and because of this, everything that comes out of your mouths just seems like a balloon blowing stale air trying to promote how (not really) "great" you guys (and 1 hermaphrodite) are.
We are in agreement then on the lack of necessity for a group to hold Militia membership to have effect. Which was the only real point I wanted to make, SF can have effect even if it doesnÆt battle by Concord Regulations.
We do disagree (surprise!) on what level of effect has been had. I will say though that I am not trying to promote how ôgreatö I am, nor how ôgreatö SF is in general. The information is available for anyone to make a decision on that front. My own opinion on the matter isnÆt so cut and dry anyway. I measure ôgreatö in my own way as I am sure you do as well. Success, longevity, certain goals achieved, effect relative to size and all that.
à ôhermaphroditeö ? Do you have problems with hermaphrodites? When a person is no longer a mere mortal what matters what bits of flesh are attached in what locations? Is this some Amarr thing where Hermaphrodites are witches?
Originally by: Invelious
RKK could have done well outside of the militia against us, but have already done way more inside the tribals force then what they would have done outside of it. Take a lesson from that page Tomahawk
Even before they joined though the rumble of their name lent trepidation to the foot steps of the 24th.
As to taking lessons, I actually had lessons from RKK many years ago. Different people from a different time but in that memory I still hold RKK with respect, everyone should. We all start out as blank slates of ignorance, stumbling along as grubs in the grass desperate to avoid m0o colored blades. RKK wasnÆt alone is lending to my general knowledge but they certainly were a part.
Originally by: Invelious
So all IÆm saying is that for SF, you would do better to send a contingent of pilots into the war directly so you can have a better impact.
Maybe yes, maybe no. it isnÆt reasonable to require the dissolution of an organization to meet a theoretical goal standard. Not to mention the NRDS policy which is hard to mix in this battle. That however is a topic for another thread.
Thanks for the cogent replies, there just isnÆt anything to say to comments like ôStar Craptionö except maybe to ask for a hall pass.
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.21 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Secretary Phase
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: lucifers widow
Indeed am indeed sorry for posting
You are a pathetic worm. Go back under your stone and pray that nobody finds out where you live.
Interestingly enough, this is my real identitity -
does that mean Lucifers Widow is an alias of yours?
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